Hmm, can't tell how it's different. Is it different?
Looks a bit like Montblanc Bordeaux. I already ordered a bottle without even seeing the color. Fortunately, I like the color. Hope it's as perfect an ink as Australian Roses.
It looks like a really drab, boring brown. I think I'll pass...
@n3rf, it is different. I'm inking up both right now to play and see the difference. More to report later!@Patrick, Sight unseen! You live life on the edge! ;)@Anonymous, it's not a brown, but a red-black, it's hard to distinguish on a computer screen. It looks pretty impressive in a flex pen like Australian Roses, lots of color variation. I'll be posting more thorough pics later.
I'm excited that Nathan made another Black Swan! I love Australian Roses (burgundy-black is pretty much my favorite ink ever) and although this red-black isn't nearly as lovely to my eye, it makes me hopeful that there may come even more variations!Maybe there will be Black Swans in other flowers... How about periwinkles? :D
I hope that this one will actually be available in England. I was very keen on the idea of the Australian Roses, but the shipping from the US was a bit rich for me.
I'm actually more interested in that prototype pen and if the price will continue to be $14, I might just get all 3-4 different variations. I'm also glad to head that Nathan is working on producing more flex pens.
@Brian: if you get a chance to show a comparison w/Australian Roses that might be interesting too. I do have to say this looks like blech brown to me too; may have to go the sample route initially. We've all been shortening Black Swan in Australian Roses to Black Swan; now we need new nicknames!
I, too, am looking forward to those pens from Nathan. However, I would be more than willing to pay a few dollars more per pen if it means actually being able to get them! Definitely need to get some more ink samples... :)
The ink looks lovely, but oh, that brush pen prototype really caught my eye. Any idea when it might be available?? Weeks?? Months?? Years??
@Jesse, I'm hoping for a blue! I was thinking that might have been what English Roses was....surprise! Red black! @archon, I don't have any insight on that for you, there are a lot of things that go in to international distribution. Here's hoping!@Peninkcillin, yeah, for the record I learned about this new prototype from the video right along with you....I have no clue what's up with it.@SheilaM, Australian Roses has been awesome, and I don't know if English roses will top it. I guess time will tell. Samples are a good way to go if you're unsure, these colors in particular are tough to get across accurately on a computer screen. I have inked up both inks side by side and the colors are actually not that different, surprisingly, but English Roses looks more brown next to Aus. As far as distinguishing the two names, we can call them BSAR and BSER, but they might be easy to confuse. Perhaps Australian Roses and English Roses?@Sarahb1, I hear yah. Nathan wants to keep the prices as they are, so that's what everyone does (or is supposed to do). The reason he's taking longer than initially planned on the Music Pen (and the others, I guess) is because he's getting a better manufacturing process down, so it's not so dependent on his time to tune all the nibs. A little patience now I think will pay off well down the road.@moonswirl, haha! I was watching his video as I was inking up samples of BSER and I saw him pull out that pen, and I literally yelled 'what the hell?!'. I knew I would start getting questions right away....I don't know anything more that you all do right now, I would say don't get too excited about it yet, it'll be weeks if not months at this point. Let's get excited about one thing at a time here! ;)
I couldn't watch the whole video due to an awful internet connection - so bear with me if I get this wrong - this ink isn't about roses. Although Mr. Tardiff mentions York (White Rose) and Lancaster (Red Rose) and the Wars of the Roses this ink is about the poppy and the suffering of the Great War. In that context the colour of the ink makes much more sense. I thought the ink looked very brown, and a non-descript brown at that, and it was hard to see the "rose" in the ink. If you ever get the chance there are stretches of the trench network that have been preserved and are kept as a monument to those who fell in the Great War, and you should visit. Even in the rather sanitised, health and safety obsessed 21st Century the trenches are horrific, so very grim. The Western Front was mainly composed of two colours: mud and blood. I remember my great grandfather telling me that the poppies were coloured by the blood of the fallen from both sides and only when there was no more blood would the poppies stop flowering.If Mr. Tardiff is trying to bring this history to the fountain pen ink user it is a noble effort - although the name of the ink does somewhat confuse the historical underlying narrative.
While nice, the new pen excited me more than the ink.
Haha, I know! I was hoping English Roses would be more different from Australian Roses than it is. Still a nice color, they're just fairly close. I'm still hoping for a blue!!
He even admits in the video that the ink really represents the poppies more than roses, so I'm not entirely certain of his choice for the name. One thing is certain though, he's a man with deep thoughts, and he always works with intention!